Barack Obama, I Call Thee Nicolae Carpathia

Ouch! Tell us how you really feel.

Nice Jesse.

And, of course the 250,000 Germans were only there to see the top two bands in Germany playing before he was there.

Um, you do know that Nicolae Carpathia is a fictional portrayal of the Antichrist right? As in, written by a person, for popular fiction? As in, not real?

Come on, it’s foolish speculation like this that makes people think that us Christians are stupid and bigoted.

Also, he writes most of his own speeches. Jon Favreau writes some of them, but the vast majority, and all of the speeches he is best known for, he wrote himself.

Yes, the media loves him. And the world loves him. It’s foolish to think that he can fix everything, that’s definitely true. The next eight years are going to be rough for our country, no matter who gets elected. Not even the most brilliant team of economists given absolute power could fix our tanked economy in a short amount of time. But Republican or Democrat, you have to admit that the last administration has failed the American people on a lot of levels. So of course people want someone new! Of course people want someone who gives them hope!

And McCain, who I do admire and have always liked, is unfortunately a part of the same group of people who really trashed and divided our country over the past eight years.

Obama is no Antichrist. Inexperienced, yes. Young, yes. A good man? Definitely. He is new, and different, and of course people pin their hopes on him. His charisma and intellect have definitely helped him, but that doesn’t make him the damn AntiChrist. Come on. You want a demon, why don’t you look at Karl Rove, who laughingly uses our Faith to manipulate us, to trick us. It’s disgusting, and tragic.

I’m not trying to call anyone here stupid, or insult anyone. I really don’t mean offense. It’s just that I think we all need to take a good hard look at our own thoughts and beliefs from time to time, and make sure that we’re on the right track.

I agree, it’s really important for liberals and conservatives to have an open dialogue, and forums like this are a good place for it. I think the biggest current problem with our country is that everyone demonizes everyone, and nobody listens to anybody but those with the same exact political views as their own. Both sides have merit, and by having a dialogue and actually listening to each other, we’re all better for it.

After last nights debate between McCain and Obama… I wandered to the bedroom and grabbed “Left Behind” off the book shelf… I hadn’t touched it for years…

The similarities go on and on…
* Came from nowhere
* Was built up on financing of OTHER influential people (we could tie in Stonagal with Soros and/or Auchi)
* Wants disarmament (starting with ours but ultimately other nations)
* Tied in with influential non-politicians in the world
* Goes from lower house (senate) to President (to be seen but looks entirely possible)
*Rumors of ruthless deals with competition in his past

And, the list goes on and on… It’s sickening at its worst… But, totally plausible… However - the story is FICTION… And, we are living the Non-fiction… You are so correct… If things continue to pan out… We don’t need to worry about high gas prices… We better each look closely at our own salvations!

Isn’t it a little strong to say that Obama is evil? What are your arguments to support that? Inexperienced and young, yes, there’s no use arguing against that. But evil? Amoral? What have you seen that leads you to believe that?

I used to have a lot of respect for McCain, but his mud slinging tactics and his pandering choice of Palin have really tarnished that. I’m a moderate Democrat, but to be honest if he had chosen Huckabee (who I actually really like and respect) or another Republican with smarts and experience, I think I would have been satisfied no matter how this election went. McCain’s greatest strength was that was the ticket with experience and respect from both parties. Had he chosen a VP with this in common, I think that would have been great. Instead, he chose Palin, who is anything but. She is not a bad person by any means, but I think her choice as VP is an insult to Republicans, and the American people.

Let’s start a dialogue. Why don’t you like Obama? What about his plans do you disagree with it? Is it just his character, or his career, or both? Politicians have convinced us to hate each other, and to support the higher ups in our own party without question. But I believe that we should question our own party leaders even more critically than the opposition does.

I’m all ears.

This entire website is embarrassing. I am continually amazed at the ignorance of anti-Obama “Christians”. Any group that would incite hatred of a man they do not know, because he is running for political office, is an affront to this country’s existence. Chanting things like, “Kill him” and “He is the Anti-Christ” is irrational and further damages this nation’s reputation. If you have ever wondered why terrorism happens, look no further than the angry mobs at McCain/Palin events.

K. Scott - No one on this website is stating “kill him” or are we even stating he is the Anti-Christ… All we are talking about is the resemblance of many of his characteristics being like those of the fictional character of Nicolae Carpathia…

Above in another post.. I’ve pointed out exactly why I’m voting AGAINST Obama… If you can not come to the forum here… And, give rational and resourceful comments… It rather shows you to be one of the “obama minions” that are actually unable to think for themselves… You would rather point fingers and call names instead of providing meaningful words to the discussion… Many times in life… Those that point fingers and call names are closer to resemblance of those names you call…

Hey Terry,

Thanks for a nicely laid out argument about Obama. As for Scott, I understand his frustration with those with different beliefs, but attacking others like that won’t solve anything. I don’t think anybody here condones mob mentality or hate slurs.

As for terrorists appearing in response to Palin’s mob, well, yeah, if that were the case it would most likely be from liberal extremists, yeah. But liberal extremists and conservative extremists are just two sides of the same coin, and any political group that spreads their ideas through violence is misguided and wrong. I won’t say “evil” because I believe that that term is thrown around way to liberally, and nobody but the occasional and rare psychopath really does anything because they are “evil.” Misguided, wrong, and completely awful, yes, but if anything their actions and the belief that what they are doing is OK stems from almost cult mentalities.

I think it’s fair to say that Al Qaeda is a cult or sorts? Or the KKK? Or the Earth Liberation Front? Groups like Al Qaeda are obviously more religion based, but they all usually recruit young people with weak, impressionable personalities and trouble identifying with the world. Something like ELF often focuses on stupid rich liberal kids who’ve never had to struggle for anything and who are desperately searching for a cause to give them meaning. Al Qaeda focuses on young, uneducated boys in the middle-east whose lives are full of violence and economic and cultural strife.

What do they have in common? They’re searching for meaning, a cause. What’s the easiest way to do that? Give them someone to hate, to demonize. For Al Qaeda it’s the west, and “unbelievers.” They’re brainwashed into thinking that everything awful in their lives and the lives of their families are OUR fault, and Israel’s fault, and whoever else the monster of the week is according to their leaders. For ELF it’s Big Companies, Big Farms, and conservatives. They don’t care about the people involved, or their livelihoods, they paint those they attack as EVIL, torturous monsters. The KKK paints liberals and minorities as EVIL, leaching, know-it all monsters. Al Qaeda paints the west as EVIL, unholy, imperialistic monsters. See? Cult brainwashing. Labeling any group as EVIL allows us not to think about things, or figure out WHY some people are that way.

Oh man, this was a complete tangent. Sorry that I’m taking so long to get back to you, Terry, I’m working and going to school full time, and it’s midterms. Ugh. But I will soon! You have a lot of valid and interesting points about Obama that I’d like to discuss. To be continued!

I would feel more comfortable about Obama if he would just honestly answers questions about his associations with such unsavory characters such as Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Louis Farakahn and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright instead of dancing around the issue. He owes the voting public that much.

@meritt: Yes, but I wrote this in July.